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the problem that libya has always had is after gadhafi fell, all of these militias that have been running around the country never disarmed. and some of these militias are affiliated with al qaeda and one of these militias decided to carry out an attack against the consulate. now there does seem to be some tentative moves by the government and also just by the people of benghazi, to disarm some of these militias to try to disband them. if that's successful, and libya can findly move on from its revolutionary phase and become a normal government, then i think libya can have a very positive future. small country, big country but small population. lots of oil it has a lot of things going for it it just needs to disarm and start behaving a little better. >> richard engel in afghanistan for us this morning. can you watch more of richard's reporting along with our nbc news team reporting from the region all week long. katty kay, a lot of questions about this debate, this administration's handling of what is still in part a chaotic middle east transitioning. >> on the issue of libbia i'm not sur
the problem that libya has always had is after gadhafi fell, all of these militias that have been running around the country never disarmed. and some of these militias are affiliated with al qaeda and one of these militias decided to carry out an attack against the consulate. now there does seem to be some tentative moves by the government and also just by the people of benghazi, to disarm some of these militias to try to disband them. if that's successful, and libya can findly move on from its...
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certainly had a part in overturning a dictator, muammar gadhafi, and now we have a situation where the fbi, we are told, won't even go to benghazi, which was the seat of the rebel which was the seat of the rebel the folks that we supported because it's so dangerous there, so they're investigate this from a tripoli, which is 400 miles away. what does that tell you, a -- >> thousands of libyans demonstrated. they went after these militia extremists which are al qaeda-affiliated themselves. the united states is more popular in libya than any country in the arab world, but they need help. after it was over, did we give them the assistance they needed? no. their borders are porous. al qaeda is coming in. they don't have a strong government. they have a people that like the united states of america. in afghanistan we are having americans killed by "insiders." >> the troops that we're training. >> yeah. >> forces we are training in uniform. they just inflicted the greatest damage on kandahar since the tet offensive. they blew up irreplaceable aircraft, and it's because the president has consi
certainly had a part in overturning a dictator, muammar gadhafi, and now we have a situation where the fbi, we are told, won't even go to benghazi, which was the seat of the rebel which was the seat of the rebel the folks that we supported because it's so dangerous there, so they're investigate this from a tripoli, which is 400 miles away. what does that tell you, a -- >> thousands of libyans demonstrated. they went after these militia extremists which are al qaeda-affiliated themselves....
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. >>> in libya, hundreds of people have turned over weapons that toppled moammar gadhafi. three heat-seconding missiles and the weapons collection comes after the september 11th attack in benghazi that killed chris stevens. >> child was killed. and sunday school class in kenya. >> the sam malley militant group may be behind the violence at an anglican church in my roby. they have been the site of attacks of since last year. >>> the youngest prisoner at guantanamo bay is returned to canada after spending a year in custody. he was capture a bombed out compound and then he pleaded guilty to murder ago u.s. soldier as part of a plea deal to return to canada. authorities say kotter was taken to afghanistan by his father who is said to be a senior al-qaida mentor who apprenticed his son to bomb makers. >>> at the same time they cut costs. starting tomorrow, medicare will fine hospitals that have too many patients readmitted due to complications 30 days or less after being discharged. it is part of the healthcare overall. it is estimated that # 200 facilities with you is 2/3rd of
. >>> in libya, hundreds of people have turned over weapons that toppled moammar gadhafi. three heat-seconding missiles and the weapons collection comes after the september 11th attack in benghazi that killed chris stevens. >> child was killed. and sunday school class in kenya. >> the sam malley militant group may be behind the violence at an anglican church in my roby. they have been the site of attacks of since last year. >>> the youngest prisoner at guantanamo...
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opinion of what is happening now in the countries where there were uprisings and we saw the end of gadhafi and mubarak and so on? >> translator: i do believe that all of the world needs reform. the reform must take place everywhere. everywhere. even in the very same place that you and i are sitting because still humans have not -- have not reached a degree of completeness. there have been a lot of strides made, but hopes and aspirations have not been realized in some places reforms have taken and some sparks, as you said, we have witnessed. but the desired point is still far away. >> you have often said that democracy, freedom, whatever you want to call it, is best born out ever the people of the country, not from other countries interfering. we saw that happening in tunisia, in egypt, in libya. have you encouraged that? do you encourage the people of those countries to rise up and to protest? >> translator: you see, for the people to rise up or to start a movement, it's their own prerogative. we do not meddle or interfere in that. we believe that everywhere just this respect freedom and f
opinion of what is happening now in the countries where there were uprisings and we saw the end of gadhafi and mubarak and so on? >> translator: i do believe that all of the world needs reform. the reform must take place everywhere. everywhere. even in the very same place that you and i are sitting because still humans have not -- have not reached a degree of completeness. there have been a lot of strides made, but hopes and aspirations have not been realized in some places reforms have...
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alliance between the sea of radical elements in the united states in bringing down assad and bringing down gadhafi but when that's finished where will their or where will. their objective turn it will turn precisely on israel and america ok. living i've seen for twenty five years people think using the salafist as. sort of simple pious people who don't understand politics for their end only to find the salafist use them for their ends and i fear that this is what they will find that it will turn on them and will bite them just as it did twenty five to thirty years ago but what lessons has the us failed to learn when it comes to its experience in afghanistan and how does that relate to what's going on right now i remember in eighty seven going and talking to the americans about it and saying you know you need to really understand the big differences between these groups that are taking part in this alliance to put together and you have to understand some have credibility and real roots within the community but others do not at all they're quite different and the americans and the senator i remember
alliance between the sea of radical elements in the united states in bringing down assad and bringing down gadhafi but when that's finished where will their or where will. their objective turn it will turn precisely on israel and america ok. living i've seen for twenty five years people think using the salafist as. sort of simple pious people who don't understand politics for their end only to find the salafist use them for their ends and i fear that this is what they will find that it will...
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alliance between the of radical elements in the united states in bringing down assad and bringing down gadhafi but when that's finished where will their anger where will. their object. if turn it will turn precisely on israel and america. is living i've seen for twenty five years people think big are using the salafist as sort of simple pious people who don't understand politics for their end only to find the salafist use them for their ends and i fear that this is what they will find that it will turn on them and will bite them just as it did twenty five or thirty years ago but what lessons has the us failed to learn when it comes to its experience in afghanistan and how does that relate to what's going on right now i remember in eighty seven going and talking to the americans about it and saying you know you need to really understand the big differences between these groups that are taking part in this alliance put together and you have to understand some have credibility and real roots within the community but others do not at all quite different and the americans and the senator i remember
alliance between the of radical elements in the united states in bringing down assad and bringing down gadhafi but when that's finished where will their anger where will. their object. if turn it will turn precisely on israel and america. is living i've seen for twenty five years people think big are using the salafist as sort of simple pious people who don't understand politics for their end only to find the salafist use them for their ends and i fear that this is what they will find that it...
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the bbc and, you know, just said the day before, we're going to cue the people in benghazi, and when gadhafi says i'm going to kill, he's going to kill. he was going to kill. what we have to do -- i work for a no-fly zone, but i wanted to be asked to do something, and i think that today in syria, it's very, very, very, very disappointed to see we're not doing anything. agree to disagree on this and let it to be the way it is with syria. i'm not saying we have to be passive, but we have to be respectful. we have to know with whom we -- we should not intervene only to protect our interests. in libya, it was quite clear this was a deal between the united states and france, and i think in syria, we have to care about the people who are being killed and not only about the interests, which i think is the case today. >> i'm a journalist from egypt visiting dc and returning back again to cover the dilemma between the polarization between islamists and civil or secular powers. you said that islam's in egypt say they want or seek for civil state, religious or islamic background, and this is not the ca
the bbc and, you know, just said the day before, we're going to cue the people in benghazi, and when gadhafi says i'm going to kill, he's going to kill. he was going to kill. what we have to do -- i work for a no-fly zone, but i wanted to be asked to do something, and i think that today in syria, it's very, very, very, very disappointed to see we're not doing anything. agree to disagree on this and let it to be the way it is with syria. i'm not saying we have to be passive, but we have to be...
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and after gadhafi was overthrown, the new government came in, no one has gone to that country and taken the munitions and the weapons and the bombs and mortars out. that's all still sitting there. we'll have the same issue in syria when that ends. for all the stuff that's being sent in to help the rebels, what happens in the aftermath when you've got tons of stuff that came in from all over the world and it falls into the hands of bad guys. or terrorists. >> bob, you're concerned about that particularly even talking about that now for months. >> yeah. it's all over the middle east, there's weapons easily available, they're for sale, they're being shipped around. there's enormous amount of money going into countries like libya and these countries fragment. libya is a tribalized society. it's astounding if you look at the french intelligence reports that there's something like 100,000 to 200,000 militia men in libya but there's only 5,000 to 10,000 regular forces. the central government is outnumbered and to go to the central government and say do something about this is unrealistic. >> t
and after gadhafi was overthrown, the new government came in, no one has gone to that country and taken the munitions and the weapons and the bombs and mortars out. that's all still sitting there. we'll have the same issue in syria when that ends. for all the stuff that's being sent in to help the rebels, what happens in the aftermath when you've got tons of stuff that came in from all over the world and it falls into the hands of bad guys. or terrorists. >> bob, you're concerned about...
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yes, they wanted gadhafi killed. there was a group called the libyan fighting group, the organization, they tried to assassinate gadhafi in '96 and gadhafi retaliated massively and they all fled, joined up with al-qaeda. during the revolution, they reformed. not necessarily named as such, then they leveraged the nato support, which assassinated gadhafi. >> jeff, let me ask you, how big of a problem are these groups right now? >> well, i think they're a major problem. they don't represent a great proportion of libyan citizenry, obviously. you're talking about small rejections factions. a lot of these organizations integrate jihadi veterans who have some combat experience. whether we're talking about iraq in which libyans represented a very sizable contention of foreign fighters there, or even in the afghan pakistan war zone. you have a lot of folks with a great deal of experience and that also plays into the reason of why we didn't know about this and its entirety before it happened. a lot of these guys are very sophi
yes, they wanted gadhafi killed. there was a group called the libyan fighting group, the organization, they tried to assassinate gadhafi in '96 and gadhafi retaliated massively and they all fled, joined up with al-qaeda. during the revolution, they reformed. not necessarily named as such, then they leveraged the nato support, which assassinated gadhafi. >> jeff, let me ask you, how big of a problem are these groups right now? >> well, i think they're a major problem. they don't...
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sources with the noble idea of overthrowing gadhafi, but it's still not impossible that those weapons were used in that attack. he fears that this could happen in syria. >> and, brian, the state department, you said they're not thrilled with this. can they do anything to stop it? >> it doesn't look like they can. this group has a license from the treasury department. it is legal. it is money going for a certain cause, and under the perimeters that they've set here, this is legal. you can but beth the state department is watching this. >> brian. thank you. appreciate it. >> one more note about syria. we told you earlier that a meeting was going on between the ktsz that are dedicated to helping the people of syria that are caught in that civil war, of course. well, united nations now predicts that the number of syrian people who fled their homes is going to reach 700,000 by the end of this year. that's about 3% of the entire population of syria too afraid now to go home. the u.n.'s refugee agency is trying to get a half billion dollars in aid, donations to help them. what's more beautif
sources with the noble idea of overthrowing gadhafi, but it's still not impossible that those weapons were used in that attack. he fears that this could happen in syria. >> and, brian, the state department, you said they're not thrilled with this. can they do anything to stop it? >> it doesn't look like they can. this group has a license from the treasury department. it is legal. it is money going for a certain cause, and under the perimeters that they've set here, this is legal....
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he supported president obama's action to remove gadhafi. he's been critical of how the administration has handled the benghazi aftermath. we spoke earlier today. take a look. what do you make of the response by the administration in the early days, ambassador rice, and now what they're saying now, they're now saying it was a terrorist attack. the president diuse the word terror early on in the rose garden, but we heard from ambassador rice, who is saying link this to the video that's been released. what do you see as going on? >> i see a fundamental misunderstanding in the larger picture and then on the smaller picture. on the smaller picture, they were either incredibly naive or willfully deceiving the american people. i don't know which, but to think an attack of this nature with heavy weapons, mortars, and a very sophisticated direct fire and indirect fire, that somehow that could be the result of a spontaneous demonstration is just impossible for me to understand. >> let me just throw in a third option, though, which supporters of the a
he supported president obama's action to remove gadhafi. he's been critical of how the administration has handled the benghazi aftermath. we spoke earlier today. take a look. what do you make of the response by the administration in the early days, ambassador rice, and now what they're saying now, they're now saying it was a terrorist attack. the president diuse the word terror early on in the rose garden, but we heard from ambassador rice, who is saying link this to the video that's been...
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they were all trying to bring down gadhafi. from the onset of the revolution it was the extremists that provided security. after liberation was announced says misouri, there was increasing pressure on al qaeda in yemen and other places. coming to libya was easy. among those setting up camp, once bin laden's drive and held in guantanamo bay for five years, established a unit here. alleged to have been sent here by al qaeda's ar. according to security sources these islamist militia have common goal, weakening and then infiltrating libya's curity apparatus. in benghazi there have been more than a dozen assassinations of former military officers. sources tell cnn that many of them were reportedly on an islamist hit list to eliminate qualified individuals that could pose a threat. colonel of the libyan army was recently kidnapped. he says he doesn't know by whom or exactly why. he got a call from a man who spoke as if he knew him and said he had urgent information to pass on. outside his home in broad daylight two masked men forced
they were all trying to bring down gadhafi. from the onset of the revolution it was the extremists that provided security. after liberation was announced says misouri, there was increasing pressure on al qaeda in yemen and other places. coming to libya was easy. among those setting up camp, once bin laden's drive and held in guantanamo bay for five years, established a unit here. alleged to have been sent here by al qaeda's ar. according to security sources these islamist militia have common...
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gadhafi's done. there's a lot to point to, when the president says you've got to trust me, there is a lot to point to in his favor. at the same time this is a referee kind of role. look at jeff goldburg, authority on american reporting about the issue, he said from the beginning that people are underestimating the resolve of the obama administration to go to war in iran on nukes and they've consistently done it. because the president's deft saying the diplomat ex-thiic t b public has an understanding, there's trust there and it's difficult for an opponent to make hay, the president's communicated i'm going to say one thing, i'm going to say another thing, our goal is to make sure that we get what we want out of the situation that there's not a war in the middle east. >> i think the american public appreciates a now onned position. richard, how much do you think the american public understands the bull herbiishness of bib netanyahu, bilateral meetings in the oval office to meeting with congress and su
gadhafi's done. there's a lot to point to, when the president says you've got to trust me, there is a lot to point to in his favor. at the same time this is a referee kind of role. look at jeff goldburg, authority on american reporting about the issue, he said from the beginning that people are underestimating the resolve of the obama administration to go to war in iran on nukes and they've consistently done it. because the president's deft saying the diplomat ex-thiic t b public has an...
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the 9-11 raid and those same terrorists are also trying to sabotage libya's efforts to build a post-gadhafi government. >> working with other violent extremists to undermine the democratic transattentions underway in north africa as we saw in benghazi. >> gretchen: jay carney says the f.b.i. is trying to figure out who is behind the attack. >>> there may be a break in the 37-year-old murder mystery of union boss jimmy hoffa? a credible tip leading michigan police to a house in roseville where his body may be buried under the driveway. police will be out there tomorrow to dig and take soil samples. hoffa, who led teamsters, went miss not guilty july, 1975. >> brian: we can't bring him back. why are we trying to find his dead body? >>> we've showed you teens at a kansas high school launching a lunchroom revolt against the obama administration's new calorie limits. ♪ tonight we are hungry ♪ . >> gretchen: the usda says it has a solution. putting the blame on parents for not giving them snacks. many people outraged over new cafeteria regulations that only allow high schoolers 850 calories.
the 9-11 raid and those same terrorists are also trying to sabotage libya's efforts to build a post-gadhafi government. >> working with other violent extremists to undermine the democratic transattentions underway in north africa as we saw in benghazi. >> gretchen: jay carney says the f.b.i. is trying to figure out who is behind the attack. >>> there may be a break in the 37-year-old murder mystery of union boss jimmy hoffa? a credible tip leading michigan police to a house...
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dollars with warships off the coast of libya attacking the moammar gadhafi regime for the purposes of transitioning libya without a stated policy or defined policy of who we were supporting, what we hoped to gain, the gio political view of those who might come to power and now the president continues to operate in an area where he has no articulated policy. now four americans are dead, our ambassador is debt and the president is yet to be able to describe what has occurred and what is the president's policy? why is it the president is operating a year after having attacked libya without a policy. >> congressman, to be fair, and support of the president and policy will point out that time was of the essence given moammar gadhafi's intention to go house to house and kill them like rats or words to that effect. you and senator jim demint have requested any diplomatic cables that might have come from ambassador chris stevens. what are you hoping to learn, senator, from those cables? >> first of all, it was myself and the senator from tennessee. >> sorry. the question was to you since you
dollars with warships off the coast of libya attacking the moammar gadhafi regime for the purposes of transitioning libya without a stated policy or defined policy of who we were supporting, what we hoped to gain, the gio political view of those who might come to power and now the president continues to operate in an area where he has no articulated policy. now four americans are dead, our ambassador is debt and the president is yet to be able to describe what has occurred and what is the...